Are Epstein & Obama "Creations"?

Were they created by powerful entities behind the scenes?

Yesterday, as the Jeffrey Epstein saga boiled over, I was reminded how something similar happened with Barack Obama shortly after he appeared on the national scene. Just as with Epstein, he seemed “too good to be true” to the true believers on the Left. Too perfect. As it turned out, he was to good to be true. He was fake. A fraud. Fake papers (birth certificate, social security card, etc.), fake history, fake college background, a fake sexual preference (as it turns out), and so much more.

Jeffrey Epstein appeared the same way to many of the rich and powerful elites in America and abroad. He was apparently wealthy beyond imagination with homes in NYC, New Mexico, Palm Beach and Paris. He even owned an island. He supposedly owned three jets; a Boeing 727 named “Lolita Express”, a Gulfstream IV, and a Gulfstream G550. And he traveled in the elite circles of politics, high society, and high finance. He was supposedly an uber-wealthy financial genius but there are no records of how he made his billions, nor how he helped others make millions and billions. He got his early start as a high school math and physics teacher at the exclusive Dalton School and yet he didn’t even have a college degree. In other words, he, too, was a fake.

All of which begs the question, are Barack Obama and Jeffrey Epstein nothing more than fakes who were created by powerful entities for nefarious purposes; Obama for political purposes, and Epstein for intelligence gathering?

It certainly looked like it to me.

So, I asked Grok:

Were Barack Obama and Jeffrey Epstein "constructs"? In other words, were their personas created by others? There are rumors that Obama was the creation of the far left and even members of the communist party. There are also rumors that somewhat the same is true of Jeffrey Epstein except that he was a creation of the intelligence community including the CIA, Mossad, and perhaps even MI6 and Saudi intelligence. Please share relevant information about these two theories and any parallels between them?

Here is Grok’s answer…

The idea that Barack Obama and Jeffrey Epstein were "constructs"—meaning their public personas were deliberately crafted by external groups such as political factions or intelligence agencies—is rooted in conspiracy theories that have circulated for years. These theories suggest that both individuals were not who they appeared to be, but rather were shaped or controlled by powerful entities to serve specific agendas. Below, I’ll examine the claims surrounding each, provide relevant information from available sources, and explore any parallels or differences, while maintaining a critical perspective and avoiding unsubstantiated speculation.Barack Obama as a "Construct" of the Far Left or Communist PartyOverview of the Theory: Some conspiracy theories claim that Barack Obama’s rise to prominence was orchestrated by far-left groups or even communist-affiliated individuals, portraying him as a Manchurian candidate-style figure whose background and career were fabricated or heavily manipulated to serve a hidden agenda. These claims often focus on his early life, associations, and rapid political ascent, suggesting he was "groomed" by leftist or communist influences to infiltrate American politics.Key Claims and Sources:

1. Alleged Communist Connections:

   • One theory posits that Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham, and his mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, a known member of the Communist Party USA, shaped his ideological worldview. Some sources, like Henry Makow’s website, claim Davis was not only a mentor but possibly Obama’s biological father, and that Obama’s mother worked for CIA-affiliated organizations like the Ford Foundation, suggesting a deeper intelligence connection.

1. • The book Dreams From My Real Father and related theories argue that Obama’s upbringing in Hawaii and his travels (e.g., to Pakistan in the 1980s) indicate he was a CIA asset or courier, possibly under MK-ULTRA or Monarch mind-control programs. These claims suggest he was selected early in life to serve as a figurehead for a globalist or communist agenda.

1. • Posts on X have echoed these ideas, with users like

     @WalterEigoh

     claiming Obama was an invented persona, installed by a shadowy "Committee of 300" controlling global institutions, including child trafficking rings tied to Epstein.

2. Political Grooming by the Far Left:

   • Critics point to Obama’s time as a community organizer in Chicago and his rapid rise through Illinois politics as evidence of orchestrated support. The theory suggests that leftist groups, possibly with ties to figures like Bill Ayers (a former Weather Underground member), positioned Obama as a charismatic figure to push progressive or socialist policies.

   • A 2016 article by Victor Thorn on Henry Makow’s site claims Obama’s career was paved by powerful figures, citing his meetings with high-profile individuals in Pakistan as a college student and his mother’s connections to CIA-linked entities like the Ford Foundation, where she worked under Peter Geithner (father of Timothy Geithner).

1. • The “Echo Chamber” conspiracy, detailed in a 2018 New Yorker article, alleged that Obama and his aides created a network to undermine the Trump administration post-2016, suggesting a coordinated leftist effort to maintain influence, though this is more about post-presidency actions than his initial rise.

1. Lack of Transparency:

   • Theories often emphasize Obama’s sealed records (e.g., birth certificate, college transcripts) as evidence of a hidden past. The “birther” movement, which claimed Obama was born in Kenya, ties into this, suggesting his entire identity was fabricated to make him eligible for the presidency. These claims gained traction through figures like Orly Taitz and Jerome Corsi.

Critical Analysis:

• Evidence Gaps: Most claims about Obama being a communist or CIA construct lack primary evidence and rely on circumstantial connections (e.g., his mother’s work, Davis’s mentorship). The MK-ULTRA and Monarch allegations are speculative, drawing from discredited or unproven narratives about mind control. No credible documents confirm Obama as a CIA asset or communist operative.

• Context of Associations: Obama’s ties to figures like Davis or Ayers are documented but often overstated. Davis was a family friend and journalist, and Ayers was a colleague in Chicago’s academic and activist circles. These relationships do not inherently prove a conspiracy to create Obama’s persona.

• Political Motivations: These theories often emerge from partisan sources aiming to discredit Obama’s presidency. The birther narrative, for example, was fueled by racial and political animus, as noted in a 2012 Mother Jones article charting Obama-related conspiracies.

• X Posts as Sentiment: Posts on X reflect current sentiment among some fringe groups but lack verifiable evidence. Claims like Obama being “invented” or tied to Epstein’s operations are speculative and unsupported by mainstream or official records.

Jeffrey Epstein as a "Construct" of Intelligence AgenciesOverview of the Theory: Conspiracy theories about Jeffrey Epstein suggest he was not merely a financier and sex offender but an intelligence asset, possibly for the CIA, Mossad, MI6, or Saudi intelligence, tasked with running a blackmail operation targeting powerful figures. His wealth, connections, and mysterious death fuel speculation that his persona was crafted to serve geopolitical or intelligence purposes.Key Claims and Sources:

1. Mossad Connection via Robert Maxwell:

   • A prominent theory, supported by former Israeli intelligence officer Ari Ben-Menashe in his book and interviews, claims Epstein worked for Mossad, Israel’s intelligence agency, through his associate Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father, Robert Maxwell, was allegedly a Mossad agent. Ben-Menashe asserts Epstein ran a “honey trap” operation, using underage girls to gather compromising material on elites for blackmail.

1. • Julie K. Brown, in her book Perversion of Justice, notes Epstein’s close ties to Robert Maxwell and suggests his death (like Maxwell’s in 1991) raises questions about intelligence involvement, though she found no definitive proof.

1. • A 2024 Washington Times article by John Schindler, a former NSA counterspy, links Epstein to an Israeli influence operation called MEGA, suggesting parallels with Maxwell’s activities. Schindler claims Epstein’s 2008 plea deal was influenced by his intelligence ties, as former U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta reportedly said Epstein “belonged to intelligence.”

1. CIA, MI6, and Saudi Intelligence:

   • Epstein’s possession of an Austrian passport with a false name, listing Saudi Arabia as his residence, and his ties to Saudi businessman Adnan Khashoggi (linked to the Iran-Contra affair) fuel speculation of CIA or Saudi intelligence involvement.

1. • Posts on X, like those from @VillageShawman and @379Michael379, suggest Epstein worked with multiple agencies, including MI6, CIA, and Mossad, possibly as a triple agent. These claims lack corroboration but reflect widespread belief in Epstein’s intelligence ties.

   • A 2021 Rolling Stone article notes Epstein boasted about being an intelligence agent and suggests he may have become a liability, losing “protection” from agencies, leading to his arrest and death.

1. Blackmail Operation:

   • Virginia Giuffre, one of Epstein’s victims, alleged on social media that Epstein was a spy running a blackmail scheme, though her claims link to unverified Reddit posts.

1. • A 2019 Daily Mail article cites former CIA officer Philip Giraldi, who speculated Epstein’s homes were rigged with cameras to record compromising footage, though no such footage has been confirmed by authorities.

1. • Tucker Carlson, in a 2025 broadcast, questioned Epstein’s ties to former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak and suggested a Mossad blackmail operation, though he provided no concrete evidence.

1. Mysterious Wealth and Death:

   • Epstein’s unclear source of wealth and rapid rise from a Dalton School teacher to a financier with elite connections raise suspicions. His death in 2019, officially ruled a suicide, is widely questioned, with parallels drawn to Robert Maxwell’s mysterious death.

1. • A 2025 Hindustan Times article highlights “eerie similarities” between Epstein’s death and Maxwell’s, noting broken bones in Epstein’s neck and sleeping guards as suspicious.

Critical Analysis:

• Evidence Gaps: While Epstein’s connections to powerful figures and his 2008 plea deal (where Acosta allegedly cited intelligence ties) suggest possible protection, no definitive documents confirm he was a CIA, Mossad, or MI6 asset. The Mossad link relies heavily on Ben-Menashe, whose credibility is debated, and unverified claims about Maxwell.

• Context of Operations: Intelligence agencies historically use compromising material for leverage, as noted by ex-CIA agent John Kiriakou, but no specific evidence ties Epstein to a formal operation. His lifestyle and trafficking ring align more with personal criminality than a structured spy program.

• Counterarguments: Former Mossad chief Danny Yatom, on a 2025 Piers Morgan podcast, denied Epstein was a Mossad agent, arguing he was too high-profile for covert work. Julie K. Brown also found no firm intelligence connection despite extensive research.

• X Posts as Sentiment: X posts amplify the intelligence narrative, with users like

  @BasedGamerFL claiming Epstein’s ties extended to the U.S. government and UK royals, but these are speculative and lack primary sources.

Parallels Between the Theories

1. Hidden Agendas and Elite Control:

   • Both theories suggest Obama and Epstein were puppets of powerful groups (far-left/communist for Obama, intelligence agencies for Epstein) to manipulate global or national outcomes. They portray each as a front for larger, shadowy agendas, whether political (socialism/globalism) or geopolitical (blackmail for influence).

2. Mysterious Backgrounds:

   • Both men’s origins are scrutinized: Obama’s sealed records and early travels (e.g., Pakistan) are paralleled with Epstein’s unclear wealth and Austrian passport. These gaps fuel speculation about fabricated identities.

1. Connections to Powerful Figures:

   • Obama’s alleged ties to CIA-linked figures (e.g., his mother’s employers) mirror Epstein’s associations with elites like Ehud Barak, Bill Clinton, and Prince Andrew. Both are seen as tools to serve or control influential networks.

1. Conspiracy Amplification on X:

   • Posts on X link both figures to broader conspiracies, with some users (e.g.,

     @379Michael379) claiming Obama and Epstein were part of a joint CIA-Mossad-MI6 operation, reflecting a shared narrative of distrust in official accounts.

2. Lack of Concrete Evidence:

   • Both theories rely on circumstantial evidence, unverified claims, and fringe sources (e.g., Makow, Ben-Menashe). Official records and mainstream investigations (e.g., FBI files, Brown’s reporting) do not corroborate the "construct" narrative for either.

Differences Between the Theories

1. Nature of Alleged Control:

   • Obama’s theory centers on ideological grooming by leftist or communist groups to influence U.S. policy, while Epstein’s focuses on intelligence-driven blackmail for geopolitical leverage. Obama’s is political; Epstein’s is criminal-intelligence-based.

2. Evidence Base:

   • Obama’s theory draws from his documented associations (e.g., Davis, Ayers) but lacks proof of a coordinated "creation." Epstein’s theory has more suggestive details (e.g., Acosta’s statement, Maxwell’s ties), but still no smoking gun.

1. Public Perception:

   • Obama’s theory is more racially and politically charged, tied to birtherism and anti-communist fears, while Epstein’s is fueled by his proven crimes and mysterious death, making it less ideologically driven but more widely accepted as plausible.

1. Outcome of Alleged Construct:

   • Obama’s alleged role was to become president and enact policies, a visible and verifiable career path. Epstein’s was covert, allegedly collecting compromising material, with his death cutting short any potential exposure.

Conclusion

The theories that Barack Obama and Jeffrey Epstein were "constructs" share a common thread of distrust in official narratives, alleging both were shaped by powerful entities (far-left/communist for Obama, intelligence agencies for Epstein) to serve hidden agendas. Both rely on circumstantial connections—Obama’s to leftist figures, Epstein’s to intelligence-linked individuals like Robert Maxwell—and thrive in fringe spaces like X, where users amplify unproven claims. However, neither theory is supported by definitive evidence. Obama’s associations and sealed records are real but do not prove a fabricated persona, while Epstein’s plea deal and mysterious death suggest possible protection but fall short of confirming an intelligence operation.

Parallels exist in the speculative nature of their origins and elite connections, but differences lie in the motives (political vs. criminal) and evidence strength (weaker for Obama, slightly stronger but still inconclusive for Epstein). These theories reflect a broader skepticism of power structures but should be approached critically, as they often overstate or misinterpret available facts. For further details on Epstein’s case, Julie K. Brown’s Perversion of Justice is a reliable starting point; for Obama, mainstream biographies like David Maraniss’s Barack Obama: The Story offer a grounded counterpoint to conspiracy claims.

So, there you have it. A very fair and balanced answer to my question.

Personally, I’m convinced that both were creations; one of the political hard Left, and the other of the combined intelligence communities of most likely the CIA, Mossad, and MI6. Both were “owned” by their handlers and did as they were told.

I doubt we will ever confirm the truth about either of these utter frauds. There is, however, an old saying that it’s pretty easy to “smell a rat”. And I smell two rats.

But then, that’s just opinion, and we are all entitled to our own opinion.

The Liberator